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Is there room to negotiate?

The wholesale on the Passion is $16,610 CND before freight and all applicable taxes... MSRP is $18,250 CND -- not a huge mark up... so with such little room for negotiation, should I even try to bargain? I've paid my deposit... but I haven't yet negotiated my drive-away price.

Thoughts?

PS. Anyone know the wholesale cost of the Pure?

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Hi.

I just bought a Passion Cabriolet. I was able to negotiate a whopping $546 cdn off of the sticker price.

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WOW!! I guess its because the Cabrios are not in as high a demand as the Passion or the Pure -- but heck, I would haven't been happy with that. At my dealership, they had 4 cabrios in the showroom and that was it.

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canada has a different dealership system. in the USA, prices are locked, and lower than canada. i got my pure for $11,590 USD plus options (AC/alarm) orphans are different, dealers go wild and add cheapie add-ons for big profits, "clear coat" and secondary alarms (clear coat is for PAINTED SURFACES) a smart only has the tridion safety cell for REAL PAINT, clear coat on plastic body parts is useless!!! they don't "clear coat" bumpers on american cars, which is the only plastic surface on american cars. it only takes a mexican a few minutes to apply "clear coat" to a smart, so dealers abuse the orphan program this way. look at any dealership, mexican labor is employed in the "porter/prep" departments. i'm tired of this dealer crap. i've let one member here know about it, he's a dealer on the left coast, and he supports this dealer BS! and his initials are "BS" oh, so fitting!

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I think you forgot to take your pills again, or get your rabies shot. Between your anger, your potato gun and your .22 rifle, you should easily be able to take care of your problems.

Now be a nice fellow and behave won't you?

Good thing you live south of Roosevelt Road.

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It will be hard to get them to come down in price, there has been increased demand in Canada on the smart so they will be confident to sell it at MSRP, but I would ask for new floor mats or something else from the accessories catalog.

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I paid MSRP but got the all-weather floor mats, the luggage trunk thing, trunk tray and a little model cabrio... so I guess I'm happy. Tried for the car cover, but he said it was too expensive to throw in... my first request was for winter tires. :) Obviously that was a NO. Oh well.

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My wife also try to negotiate and came away with a free pink Smart ball cap.

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Damn, I'm taking you with me next time I buy a smart :)

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I guess I'm lucky my dealer threw in all that he did considering that they gave me their test drive smart car for an entire week while I was waiting for my passion to arrive. :) Too bad the weekend after I picked it up I'm on holidays in Florida and can't enjoy it.

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but... I am enjoying Disney World and the hot sun out here!!! :)

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