Blinker / Flasher location and Part Number wanted - 451 smart fortwo 2009-11-18T01:03:54Z http://www.451s.com/forum/topics/1912846:Topic:18423?feed=yes&xn_auth=no I am all for the latest and... tag:www.451s.com,2009-09-02:1912846:Comment:66078 2009-09-02T16:12:17.029Z FIATman I am all for the latest and greenest as well. That's why I would wait till the replacements were needed. It is not very green to just toss good stuff in favor of new things that take up resources to be made. Anyway by the time the stock bulbs burn out the LEDs will be more available AND cheaper. Call me old fashioned, "waste not, want not" I am all for the latest and greenest as well. That's why I would wait till the replacements were needed. It is not very green to just toss good stuff in favor of new things that take up resources to be made. Anyway by the time the stock bulbs burn out the LEDs will be more available AND cheaper. Call me old fashioned, "waste not, want not" I guess most of us just wan... tag:www.451s.com,2009-09-02:1912846:Comment:66077 2009-09-02T15:36:41.911Z Zippin Pippin I guess most of us just want State of The (sm)ART.<br /> :D I guess most of us just want State of The (sm)ART.<br /> :D Everyone in this thread nee... tag:www.451s.com,2009-08-31:1912846:Comment:66013 2009-08-31T01:18:47.513Z FIATman Everyone in this thread needs to get more familiar with the smart's circuitry BEFORE futzing with it. I, for one, have not even found a good electrical diagram, have you? As far as I can determine from calling a dealer service guy, and observation in my car, the turn signal lamps are not "flashed" by a flasher as most of us think of it. It seems to get a flash signal from deep in the SAM which actuates a RELAY, which is not a "FLASHER". I have found out that most of the dash illumination is by L… Everyone in this thread needs to get more familiar with the smart's circuitry BEFORE futzing with it. I, for one, have not even found a good electrical diagram, have you? As far as I can determine from calling a dealer service guy, and observation in my car, the turn signal lamps are not "flashed" by a flasher as most of us think of it. It seems to get a flash signal from deep in the SAM which actuates a RELAY, which is not a "FLASHER". I have found out that most of the dash illumination is by LED already. The evilution site talks about them. I also wonder WHY regular bulbs need to be changed out if they aren't burned out. I have a 2001 Ford Focus which still has all of its original bulbs with the exception of the number plate lamp. Are you guys really "saving" anything? I've looked for LED's onlin... tag:www.451s.com,2009-08-30:1912846:Comment:66006 2009-08-30T23:11:24.899Z Tony I've looked for LED's online but don't seem to find any that match the unusual bulb numbers in the Smart owners manual. Who is the source you've used to find the bulbs? I also would like to change out the ones in my dash, clock and tach. I've looked for LED's online but don't seem to find any that match the unusual bulb numbers in the Smart owners manual. Who is the source you've used to find the bulbs? I also would like to change out the ones in my dash, clock and tach. Have you looked at www.supe... tag:www.451s.com,2009-08-30:1912846:Comment:65954 2009-08-30T04:31:42.834Z Zippin Pippin Have you looked at <a href="http://www.superbrightleds.com">www.superbrightleds.com</a><br /> They have some really nice products for interior lighting as well as a wide array of automotive bulbs and electronic flashers suitable for use with leds. Have you looked at <a href="http://www.superbrightleds.com">www.superbrightleds.com</a><br /> They have some really nice products for interior lighting as well as a wide array of automotive bulbs and electronic flashers suitable for use with leds. Hey Ned, I'm doing the same... tag:www.451s.com,2009-08-15:1912846:Comment:65387 2009-08-15T23:41:24.079Z Andrew Forrest Hey Ned,<br /> I'm doing the same thing. The two flasher relays are located at the back of the SAM (fuse box).in a seperate harness. I have so far been unsuccessful in finding an electronic equivalent however and may have to resort to a load equalizer. Hey Ned,<br /> I'm doing the same thing. The two flasher relays are located at the back of the SAM (fuse box).in a seperate harness. I have so far been unsuccessful in finding an electronic equivalent however and may have to resort to a load equalizer. Check ebay tag:www.451s.com,2009-07-09:1912846:Comment:64244 2009-07-09T04:45:05.855Z 451 Kahn Check ebay Check ebay Have you tried the LEDs wit... tag:www.451s.com,2009-07-07:1912846:Comment:64218 2009-07-07T20:11:18.771Z FIATman Have you tried the LEDs without changing anything? From info I found, there are two relays, one each for the left and right turn-brake light circuit. If these relays that light the lamps and are run by a flasher circuit of some sort, then the load of the "lamp" doesn't matter. I am betting you might not need to change the "flasher". BTW where did you get the LEDS? Who made them? Thanks for any info. Have you tried the LEDs without changing anything? From info I found, there are two relays, one each for the left and right turn-brake light circuit. If these relays that light the lamps and are run by a flasher circuit of some sort, then the load of the "lamp" doesn't matter. I am betting you might not need to change the "flasher". BTW where did you get the LEDS? Who made them? Thanks for any info. Check these folks. Your que... tag:www.451s.com,2009-07-07:1912846:Comment:64177 2009-07-07T01:13:54.403Z FIATman Check these folks. Your question got me searching. It was a quick find. I am thinking of the same problem for my vehicles and figured all these trucks on the highway with LED lights have solved the problem.<br /> <a href="http://www.grote.com/prodcat/H.html">http://www.grote.com/prodcat/H.html</a> I googled "solid state turn signal flasher" Check these folks. Your question got me searching. It was a quick find. I am thinking of the same problem for my vehicles and figured all these trucks on the highway with LED lights have solved the problem.<br /> <a href="http://www.grote.com/prodcat/H.html">http://www.grote.com/prodcat/H.html</a> I googled "solid state turn signal flasher" Id like to know the same th... tag:www.451s.com,2009-07-06:1912846:Comment:64124 2009-07-06T01:25:04.134Z Ryan Zmolek Id like to know the same thing. Have you found part number or anything so that electronic flasher units can be used? I've had very little luck... Id like to know the same thing. Have you found part number or anything so that electronic flasher units can be used? I've had very little luck...